south africa, a democratic free south africa where all south africas are equal regardless of race creed religion. they are personified those ideals, they carried forward those ideals not only in word but in deed. to one where democracy and equality ruled. as mandela said, he wasn't going tgoing, he said i fight against white domination. i fight against black domination. i cherish a society where everyone is found equal. that goes to the heart of what the struggles were about. >> now in this time of grief and mourning for nelson mandela, the dangers are is that people are thinking about the man rather than what he stood for. and south africa today, 50 years later, are those ideals still there? do they need to be refreshed. >> we had a conference, and one of the speakers spoke about the moment of reckon. and then i heard yesterday that it's time for reflection. i think what you just said we are at that moment where we need to reflect. we need to reevaluate. we need to rethink and reconsider where we are today in relation to what the liberation struggle was about. yes, we are honoring and rememberi